Overcoming chronic depression requires rejecting the greatest lie ever sold: “God can not help or save us and we are powerless and alone in this world.” Who wouldn’t suffer from chronic depression in a world like that?
But here’s the truth: We are not alone, God is real, and we do have access to power that can save. In this episode of the Overcome Depression Podcast, Jennifer and John discuss the connection between mental health, faith, and spiritual warfare. John also opens up about his profound personal journey through illness—a battle that revealed not only the fragility of the body but also the fierce conflict of the spirit. During this fight, John experienced a vision that exposed the grim reality of his condition and the angry entities that sought to find their “other half.”
With Jennifer’s compassionate guidance, they explore how trusting God, embracing family support, and confronting spiritual darkness can lead to deep and lasting healing. Together, they reflect on how suffering refines the soul, how divine love breaks through even the darkest nights, and how every person holds the power to overcome depression through faith and self-awareness. This episode calls listeners to see their struggles as part of a greater spiritual journey—one that leads to renewal, peace, and a stronger connection to God.
This Episode of the Overcome Depression Podcast Is for You If You Want to Learn
- The greatest lie that can prevent you from overcoming depression—and how to defeat it through truth and trust.
- How faith and spiritual warfare influence mental health and emotional healing.
- What John’s vision of his sickness and dark entities reveals about the unseen battles on our bodies and minds.
- How family support and prayer can strengthen resilience in times of crisis.
- Why trusting God’s plan during hardship brings clarity, comfort, and spiritual victory.
- How spiritual insight and understanding can guide you toward healing and purpose.
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Full Transcript for episode 49: Chronic Depression and the Greatest Lie Ever Sold
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (00:00)
relating this to mental health, those of us who feel like in that void of nothing, feel nothing, you, instead of despair and fear, you got curious and you prayed.
I would venture to say that a lot of would not have handled it as well put in the same situation, and probably why most of us aren’t put in that same situation.
Here on the Overcome Depression podcast, we cover topics and tools that can help you thrive despite the things you may be feeling right now. There is hope for you to heal. Today we’re going to be covering a rather interesting topic you might does that have to do with overcoming depression? Well, it does because understanding the truth and how to navigate it can help not fear when things in the world seem
scary or fearful. And transcending that is what us free the manipulation anything or anyone the world around us. Mental health is pivotal for us to be able to get through the times ahead. And I want to introduce again, John is here with us today. Thank you so much for joining us.
John (01:12)
Always a pleasure.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (01:13)
and I was so excited about this topic. We’re going to be using some code obvious John shared with me a journal entry he made around 2020, right? 2021,
John (01:26)
2021
that’s when the whole incident happened and a certain was buzzing around that time frame that’s what this topic relates to in that I had a spiritual as well as a physical encounter with
the entire situation was able to gain a rather unique perspective only because allowed it to be so. So take it for what it’s worth, believe what you want to believe place it in God’s hands as far as interpreting it for I’m going to read from my actual journal entries that I wrote at the time.
I’m also going to add some commentary again this is what God revealed to me this is considered a personal locution for any of you that are Catholic that might be listening so treat it as such use your own discernment
Hopefully it will help you. it will be beneficial to in recognizing certain things. And I do feel truly blessed in hindsight that I went through this experience.
So without further ado, I’m going to start actually many months before the actual event, to give listeners context. I often get
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (02:41)
some context.
John (02:45)
Visions and my visions can be multiple things a lot are symbolic and I will say these visions a good mix of symbolism had a vision back in February 2021.
was a symbolic a vision. woke up at 5am I was with two men who asked me if I wanted to spend time with them to help paint a picture, I told them yes. They meet on the and dates are important.
important and they told me don’t forget the dates again, which is the 25th and 26th I asked them if that was this month or next But they didn’t respond again. They just looked at me and said remember the dates. At which dream shifted and I was back in my parents house and I it was under construction which struck me as odd.
When I went inside, I entered the basement and looked up at the upstairs. The entire house had been gutted except for the walls, which were intact, although some of the wooden basement walls were rotten and collapsing into dust. My father stepped out of the doorway had a stern look on his face, a hammer in his hand, and his pinky finger was bandaged.
on the other hand. When he spoke, my father spoke like the Eternal Father. He said, I can’t wait to see what picture you paint with the others. You’re always so creative.
At which point he motioned to the house and the walls around us and he continued to say,
The rot and decay was pretty bad, far worse you think. I had to rip out all the support beams and the rafters. still some decay left, but we’ll leave that for now and fix those spots when we start rebuilding. You’re just in time to help out. All of the replacement beams already been cut.
to length. Now we just have to start rebuilding. father walked off into a hallway and I from my dream. Very and unusual.
I was going to shrug it off as a dream, but I couldn’t get it out of my head all day until I finally wrote it down. I know I’ve forgotten pieces and it’s fragmented, most important, the 25th and the 26th, these dates are important for some reason, somehow, even though
I don’t understand right now. I also understand the gutted house represents the church. The walls are still standing upon the foundation, but the inner core is rotten and is currently getting ripped out. New priests are represented by all the boards and God gave me to understand that they’re already being prepared
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (05:46)
Hmm.
John (05:55)
to become the new core of the house he starts rebuild it.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (06:01)
I’m not sure that just applies to the Catholic Church. I’m gonna go out on a limb here.
John (06:05)
No, it was I got got the
impression He’s talking about the entire church great example of a symbolic vision a dream that I have and I understand maybe pieces of it, but there’s also parts that I don’t understand
Especially why the 25th and the important. those dates?
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (06:24)
Mm-hmm.
John (06:26)
flash those dates ended up being very for me because those were the dates cv
code word CV and a lot of the visions that I’m going to recount happened on the 25th and of November, 2021. So he had already given me a little warning.
So I am going to read now my journal from 11/29 had endured this.
I’m writing today after being infected the CV. I visited friends turned out to be infected in order The next two weeks,
fighting CV was one of the most grueling ordeals I’ve ever experienced not only from a physical aspect spiritual one I fever muscle and a No medicine worked. I couldn’t
think clearly After a few days of this, the headache abated, I began to feel better, then began. This time it included a so profound that I couldn’t three straight.
which prevented me sleeping, eating, and I could barely So as a side I say I literally could not stop coughing for three days straight,
I couldn’t sleep up, but I would always fade in and out in and out because the coughing wouldn’t let me sleep. My body was
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (08:09)
I had
I had the cough. I do feel like I was able to sleep, though. I was able to get it under control enough that I could manage to sleep, not… I definitely didn’t have it as bad as you.
John (08:21)
Yeah. after this was all over, and he looked at me, he was horrified. number one, didn’t know what was going on. And number two, when he said he saw me sitting there, he thought I was dead. I was completely pale, emaciated, what this thing did to me
literally… I this with the utmost conviction It should have killed me if God did not intervene It would have killed me. it He allowed it to take me to that point and I will never to this day. I will never I went through.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (08:46)
Mm-hmm.
John (09:01)
God allowed things to happen for a reason.
I didn’t do anything wrong. I medications and I had complete God’s protect me. I everything he told me I never lost faith in that promise.
But I was arrogant assuming I would be immune and what the nature of his promise actually meant.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (09:33)
Interesting.
John (09:34)
Yeah another thing. First Don’t be afraid to admit if do anything wrong even if something bad happens to you and then also afraid to you made a mistake, not only to God yourself as Looking back I realized in some ways
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (09:36)
I’ve done that before.
John (09:50)
That I was kind of arrogant thinking, well, God told me to do this. He told me to do that, but never once did he say that was going to exempt me from going through this. The assumptions. Yeah. All right. So continuing God permitted me to be multiple reasons. First, He wanted me endure
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (09:57)
Right, the assumptions that we make when we get inspiration sometimes.
John (10:13)
others had I more fully with their suffering.
it This was something I never thought you see God promised me He would protect me and that I wouldn’t die. That’s what he actually said. I wouldn’t die, but my family religious. don’t understand these sorts of things from their human.
centered perspective, I had CV could kill me. That’s where they were terrified when they heard the news and saw how quickly I began to fall apart. God told me that some members of my family, the first time in years, Him my recovery.
That totally blew my mind. used rattle some of them awake. It might be a small crack, but a crack nonetheless. I also witnessed incredible kindness from my family who took multiple just to check on me and drop supplies.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (11:30)
from a than optimal situation.
John (11:31)
unexpected blessings and
All right. Now comes the spiritual of the ordeal, which I didn’t understand, nor could I understand unless I went through.
the actual experience.
A “V” is a “V” It’s a part of the natural world around us a cold is a cold; a flu is a flu. There is no sentience these things
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (12:01)
They just are.
John (12:02)
they just are it’s just accepted Well, I will tell you right now CV is pure evil. It is a sentient with a intelligence It has a and physical
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (12:03)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
John (12:23)
aspect its creation and purpose.
CV is version of a dark Pentecost. It is Lucifer’s twisted manifestation of the Holy Spirit that he unleashed upon the world.
While I was infected I had mind fog. I couldn’t think clearly. Yet on a spiritual side my connection with God felt disrupted. I could anything let alone feel spiritual a muddled
gray fog that felt foreign. I couldn’t place it at the time, but now I understand. Whenever Demidelion or God takes me places, we always travel through this glowing, peaceful realm. sooty, gray, mist-like realm I found myself in
was created by Lucifer to serve a similar purpose for It was trying to mind into it. It was trying to connect me to something far larger and insidious. I could hear whispers, see shadows within shadows, had nightmares,
but never became a part of it. As a child of God, my soul of being connected to anyone but the Trinity and my
Then came the assault on the other parts of my body. This is the part where I gained awareness of the CEV’s sentience. CEV of my for something. It was searching for its other half.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (14:26)
Now when I read that, I immediately what the other half was. about it, anyone listening, if to even just pause this for a minute,
because I think it will hit home more if you get that revelation from God first than us it to you, if that makes sense. So with that said, what was it looking for?
John (14:44)
Yeah.
It was for the shot.
whole CV shot is a two-part system. They weren’t oppose one another, just the opposite. The reason why people the V less effects from the CV
is because their body was already primed the shot or the V accept Once the find each other inside a body, they fuse and whole entity And I do mean entity.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (15:32)
Will you define an entity for us, please?
John (15:35)
An entity is a The easiest way I’ll say this in a Catholic perspective and hopefully others relate to it. We always like to say Ghost within us.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (15:50)
Mm-hmm.
John (15:51)
always Well what the CV was to do along was to modify physical body to be receptive a similar spiritual entity Lucifer’s version within the human contain it
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (15:52)
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
John (16:09)
So he’s literally modifying human body that God created that way it becomes more in tune with him than with God. So that’s what I mean by an entity.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (16:23)
Yeah, and I think a lot of good people might hear that and go, but I don’t follow that. what I see, what we’re possibly suggesting, and John, can correct if I’m not quite getting this right, is that D and the N and the A of a human, I believe is designed to have a direct connection with God, right? As part of that Holy Spirit.
John (16:45)
Correct.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (16:46)
and tampering with that could interfere with that connection, make it harder to hear the spirit, and possibly override or or it would be easier to make it seem like it’s the spirit talking to you when it’s not because you’ve almost new antenna that by someone who was trying to almost like a Trojan horse.
break in and cause interference so be harder to hear but also creating an antenna outside of you to somewhere else. So not like everybody who has done this is going to be doing horrible things. was just designed for those who are arguably struggling and might be easier to interfere, those who are still fighting, which most people, and would say everyone listening to this podcast.
John (17:11)
Yeah, that’s good.
⁓
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (17:34)
keep fighting. not like you’re doomed. will always speak to you and He can help you are ways, even people who have been programmed in very dark ways, and I’m hoping you understand what I mean by that, that can be healed. That can be undone. It’s not like because of this you are doomed, okay?
John (17:36)
Right.
Maybe another example in days when I was very aligned with I used to do willing I would let the demons inside my body willingly and what that did is
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (18:07)
Mm-hmm.
John (18:09)
Made it very easy for me to communicate with them. Whereas now I don’t let them in anymore. So now it’s very easy because when I have the direct connection to God, it’s very easy for me to them off, shrug them out, et cetera. can command them away, but because I allowed them inside of me, it
Them a greater permission to act within me and I was more connected to them of that connection I was God so it made it harder for me to free in the long term now and again what Jennifer said it’s not I’m a living proof You can do it, lots of people that have God can heal
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (18:48)
God can heal anything, including depression.
this what this whole channel is about, think it’s not possible to change my chemistry, I can’t change my DNA, I can’t change these things, so why even try? Mental at a chemical DNA level, can be healed. I am living proof of that. So you people here who have overcome significant odds.
John (19:11)
Yeah.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (19:12)
And we’re telling you, you can do it too. there’s nothing that the light cannot heal.
John (19:14)
Right and then also
they’re doing lots of experiments with And I’ll say this, if they are done accordance to God in an alignment with what He wants without trying to change what He has created, they could be a good thing. But the problem is those that are doing this.
And those who have the ear of the evil one, their intent is nice. And that’s how they’re going about it. That’s what makes it so bad, more than anything. And people go, well why does God allow it? Intent. Free will.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (19:52)
agency. It’s not like he didn’t know this was going to happen. And there’s always a choice. And again, we make choices that it was like, oops, shouldn’t have done that. There’s always agency after that. just keep trying to make better choices and aligning with God and doing what He tells you to do.
John (19:52)
agency.
Right, and in my-
Yeah, and God told me, came out and I prayed about it and He says, do not, he says, do not take it. Period. Usually God gives me symbolism. He lets me figure out.
That’s one of the few times when He came straight out and said, don’t do it. Like almost like a command. And I’ll tell you what, I’m glad He did that because sheer amount of pressure from everyone. I was even at the point where I know some of you listening might’ve been If you don’t sign on to get this, then they’re going to fire you because you didn’t comply.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (20:30)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I felt that. I felt that too.
John (20:46)
And I literally told then I get fired. back journal
After three days of continual attacks, I found myself face to face the CV a spiritual combat. An analogy of what it looked like be black volcanic rock into a fine powder retaining its razor sharp edges. Now millions of these things together
Into a smoke like substance that had a malleable form Lastly add a demonic sentience and That’s what CV the spiritual realm It is literally Satan his made manifest
It never dawned on me Lucifer would try to emulate God in all his aspects, the Holy Spirit. Until now, is. I saw it. I understood it.
It paralyzed one half of my body the other half had It raged at me. It seethed in fury asked over over again where it was. me
half was
said, Mary Joseph, I love you, save souls. Over and over, non stop. It screamed, raged, threatened, and was furious its failure any traces of the shot within me. I simply prayed
until it eventually gave up I broke free of the vision. That’s how I discovered the true spirit
After three solid days it was one of the few times when I was physical realm simultaneously. I can’t pain, but
when it finally started to let up…
heard my guardian he said Breathe and Saint Joseph appeared and said breathe Jesus appeared and said breathe his mother appeared said breathe eternal father all of these angels and saints
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (23:04)
Hmm.
John (23:18)
that I’ve prayed to over there. It’s hard to define in a human word, but imagine being in the center of the stadium and everyone shouting the same word at the same time: breathe. And at moment, arched. I opened my
and I literally Holy pour into my mouth down into my lungs; the spiritual presence of God ripple throughout my whole body.
And once happened, I stopped coughing long enough I literally and went to sleep.
I’ll never forget God’s love. Holy Ghost into me, the feeling not only of love, but a pride. lack of an expression, God looked at me with a smile.
You that was the impression I reward I actually slept the first time days Until I was awoken from a vision
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (24:10)
Yay!
John (24:20)
a.m. this morning. I found myself naked the ruins of a There were people screaming; fires riots were going on. I was as to why I was even there. It was cold, raining, I on next to a concrete wall to come to my senses.
Then from out of the shadows a ran over to me, my head and screamed. In that I was totally defenseless. I felt totally abandoned. as if
everything I had just nothing that I was literally going to die. As this, the rioter over 20 feet tall, completely black, clothing and all, and seethed unnatural fury. I knew it was Satan.
As he enlarged barrel of the pistol enlarged to the point where it was large enough to fit my entire head. I sighed, closed my eyes and said, my in the name the Lord. Then the world around me vanished into darkness as I waited for the gunshot.
Then nothing. Silence. I suddenly woke up in bed
was later given to understand that the Eternal Father said a single word No.
He intervened even as I write this I feel God’s wrath towards Lucifer right now. Lucifer’s time is almost when that happens is going after Lucifer full force. No half measures. Full divine by divine justice is coming and forget world trembling. has had enough. He wants his children back.
He wants his world back. Lucifer has failed will now reap all that he has sown. Woe to those who still choose to follow him, for they shall not see but the wrath of their creator, a wrath as has not been unleashed since the original fall of and his followers. Nor shall a moment as ever again.
God is literally mad
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (26:47)
Don’t hurt my babies.
John (26:49)
Right
December 2021 is the next journal entry. I felt something more had I was permitted to recall. I questioned my guardian angel and his reaction confirmed my suspicions.
It’s hard to explain, but I can sense when he’s intentionally keeping quiet about things. He doesn’t want to hurt me and he follows God direction. But sometimes I’m can’t leave things alone. After all, tell me to ask him questions. So I did. I prayed about it and asked God to let me see
the rest the event. In my prayer, God granted it vision and showed me
When the trigger on the gun to my head, he lashed me on a spiritual level. and soul At least he tried to. Satan ripped my soul from the vision, from in-between place,
and tossed it into the darkness of creation. I’ll try to describe as I can, but human concepts. I body. I was a orb of light, a a soul
within a absolute could think but I couldn’t anything myself inward outward
I instinctively knew wasn’t supposed to be here. If I was here, the job assigned me. Yet I also maybe simply changed his mind and this was where I needed to be now. I began to pray and wait until I God was going on.
The instant my will to pray, felt these massive hands wrap try to my soul. actual sensation with human concepts. Imagine putting an egg between your hands crushing it. My soul egg.
I say it was a force fury, despair, desperation, loneliness, emptiness. Satan.
into my soul and was determined to crush erase Literally.
my soul, wouldn’t break. The very nature of my soul non-existence. In that I also came to know Satan had tried to this on himself times before.
order to escape his eternal punishment. He had failed every time. Even soul is regardless of how he feels otherwise. I knew he was going to fail. He was going to fail. Satan was desperate enough that he tried it anyway.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (30:09)
Hmm.
John (30:29)
At the very least, he wipe my soul from existence, he could use this region of non-existence hide my soul from God.
This was going on. I was utterly powerless to move. I was held firmly under Satan’s crushing hands. Yet my mind free to think I did.
I briefly contemplated this dimension of non-existence I found myself in. I tried to understand it. Satan
the exponential growth of his desperation and fear the longer he failed to extinguish my soul. I also God’s will in allowing this to happen. anyone anything besides me and Satan.
a new
Satan to no end. So as this is going on, like totally ignoring him, ignoring everything he’s doing and just trying to contemplate, this is non-existence. So how is this working? How is Satan doing this? And he’s just getting more and more scared. He’s like, what’s wrong with you? Why? Yeah,
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (31:39)
Because you’re just curious. We’ve talked about this before
mental health Instead get curious.
John (31:49)
Yeah, and it just blew his
mind. and he just kept getting more and more afraid. And I was fascinated by it. It’s because I’m not afraid of you, you’re getting more afraid of me and what I’m thinking. Wow. This is neat. Okay. Let’s try this. Satan gleefully told me he was going to extinguish my soul that I would cease to exist. And he kept pumping those thoughts into me. Yet despite all of that, I felt
No fear. I sighed because it’s like, ⁓ come on. then I just started and waited for God to answer my prayer. Even if I couldn’t feel the connection, I instinctively knew on a spiritual the Holy Ghost always me that God knew
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (32:18)
and
John (32:34)
what was happening even he God.
I don’t passed as time literally has no meaning that region. arm into this void, of me and pulled. darkness was gone. It was now white
everywhere. I had a body again, and the Eternal Father looked upon me such kindness. held my arm in his, and pressed my head against his he wrapped his other robed arm around my body protectively. the instant, glared who appeared as the only
thing the existence of blinding radiance. He appeared black, Lucifer met the Eternal Father’s gaze and was terrified to the core of his being. He couldn’t move. there trembled. He desired to look away and run.
but the Eternal Father forbid it. I felt wrath as He lifted His arm and pointed a finger at Satan, The Eternal Father pinched His fingers close together and stated, all have of which you
requested of me and of which I granted. I will stay my hand the allotted time word. Side distance between God’s fingers was perhaps on the subatomic level and I seconds remained for lack of a better analogy. God continued, Know this.
When expires, I am not sending one legion. two. I Every angel, every saint, led by my son, will pour forth and cleanse the others that serve you will be of hell. Your authority will
and you will be made humanity part of your punishment. Those who are loyal to me shall receive their reward. Those who oppose me will be crushed underfoot. None of your actions have escaped my view. For what you have children, to my little ones, know that your punishment shall be magnified accordingly.
At which point Lucifer was literally blasted full force out of the light screaming and crying he vanished from God’s presence. The Eternal Father looked down at me, smiled, said, you did well. awoke in my bedroom.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (35:40)
That is so cool. relating this to mental health, those of us who feel like in that void of nothing, feel nothing, I think people can relate even on a physical level to some of that, you, instead of despair and fear, you got curious and you prayed.
I think a lot of,
John (35:59)
Yes
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (35:59)
I would venture to say that a lot of would not have handled it as well put in the same situation, and probably why most of us aren’t put in that same situation. But that be a lesson that when you’re in that dark space, God didn’t come you said, I’m ready! Can you come get me now? that readiness, it’s that I’m ready to go.
John (36:10)
Yeah.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (36:21)
And when I 25, when I started that there was hope for healing from depression,
I felt an urgency. And I don’t think I’ve really talked about this before, but I felt a divine urgency. You do not have time to stay depressed. You have to heal. Or you are not going to be ready for what’s coming.
You’ve got this much time. Seconds to God are a lot longer Earth, symbolically speaking, and sure that’s what you meant. even if there’s several generations left, your family line does not have time to waste.
John (36:42)
Yes.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (36:55)
If you care about your children, if you care about your grandkids, if about your posterity, if you care anything for yourself, and I know that depression can be one of those things that makes you, don’t even care about me, just me now, those kind of thoughts, you gotta look outside of yourself. There is so much at stake. This just about you. And you are worth more than you can possibly imagine. If you are stuck in
depression mental disorder, it’s going to be very hard for you to things are necessary, that are needful. God will use someone else. It’s not like it’s all hopeless for Him if you don’t. But you have a job to do. And we need you. And we need you to be with it. We need you be connecting to We need you to be with those angels. There’s angels on earth and Heaven.
when the time comes. fighting is also now, okay? So it’s not like, it’s coming. I mean, there’s a final battle for sure, but you are needed. I just want that. I know I’ve said it repeated times, but….
John (37:56)
everyone has their own unique experiences, But the thing that want you to take away from this, just even as a casual listener, what God really admired most was that I never gave up. And I never gave up on Him.
I I still loved Him. I pray to Him. And I also came at with the point of Whenever you’re ready. Here I know, it’s all, It’s all in God’s time.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (38:22)
Complete
that is what was my saving grace as well. I believed God was there. I believed He had a plan. I believed He loved me. And when I discovered that, the plan isn’t for me to suffer my whole life, it opened up all kinds of release and and that I could ask for what I had never asked for before, believing that I was going to get it. And I would encourage
John (38:39)
Yeah.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (38:47)
anyone listening to do the same and if you are struggling with your relationship with sure if you believe in God, just open that door a little. if it’s that there’s something out there that is greater than you, that wants your greater good and is fighting for you. And I to leave with that and encourage you to share this episode is a special one.
It’s a good one. And again, thank you, John, for being willing to share these extremely sensitive, vulnerable journal entries and your life story and for being with us here today.
John (39:24)
Just always remember at the end of the day. I’m Normal, I’m John. It’s just what I I think other people have gifts that totally blow me away, near my
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (39:35)
if you’re listening and you’re thinking, I don’t have any of
those, you do. You just, you’re covered up a little. You’re covered up a little. And when you find out what they are, again, I look at for fun and do sessions with people, to give them hope and help them to start that healing process. But I’ve never seen a chart that was like, ⁓ this is just okay. Like every single person I’ve ever looked at, was like, wow,
John (39:40)
Everyone, yes.
Jennifer Stirling-Campbell (40:00)
are amazing. You don’t know how amazing you are? Let me tell you. God wants you to know how amazing you are. Trust that. to believe you are more than you believe that you know you are. Okay? And with that, we will close today on the Overcome Depression podcast. Join us every Wednesday for new content. Consider downloading the workbook.
and start your healing journey today. Until next time.
John (40:25)
Goodbye.
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